Gender Indoctrination in Young Children

This story comes from “Mother Earthling.” It was originally posted on reddit and is reposted here with the author’s permission.

I was driving my 8 y/o daughter (I’ll call her “A”) to camp today, and we had a slightly terrifying, yet in the end, kind of wonderful conversation about girls who feel “more like boys.”

Her friend “B” (10) was over the other night and the two of them spent most of the evening holed up in A’s room, talking and listening to music. This morning on the long ride out to camp, A wanted to talk about their conversation – about how B had said that she felt like she was a boy inside because she doesn’t giggle and likes boy things better than girl things, but that she was happy to finally have a friend (A) that was like her. B mentioned that A likes math, comics and robots, and that even though she doesn’t like those things too much herself, they were “boy-things” and so knowing that about A made her feel less alone.

A, who is definitely a weird little kid who has already had to fight pretty hard to be her own kind of girl, concluded that because of all of these things, she and B might really be more like boys than girls. She said she was really happy that B was like her, and it was good to have a friend with these thoughts. The rest of the conversation between the two of them apparently centred around their discomfort with impending puberty and a little bit about sexual orientation – these topics were (not surprisingly) initiated by B, who is two years older and entering Grade 5.

Probing a little further, A stated that in spite of her inside-boy-feelings, that “Technically, I am a girl. I have girl sex parts.” Reflecting that back to her, I said, yes, more than “technically”, you’re a girl – you’re a juvenile human female – and thankfully her logic kicked in and she agreed with that.

Next, I asked her about ‘girl’s interests and activities’ – what makes those? And she said, “well, the stereotypicalgirl things…” and then listed some. I asked her about non-stereotypical girl things – what if a girl does those? Are those a girl’s interests and activities?

She lit up, and said, “Yes! If a girl is doing them, they are a girl’s activities – a stereotype is obviously different than a girl herself!” I challenged that a bit, just to make sure she really had it, and asked about whether she thought the stereotypes came from inside our brains or outside in the world, and she said definitely outside, because – AND I QUOTE – “a long time ago, men used to wear high heels in France, and pink used to be the boy-colour – if that stuff came from inside us, these things wouldn’t change so quickly.”

Can we all just share a sigh of relief? This is hours later and I’m still exhaling.

One small note for context – I homeschool A, but B goes to our neighbourhood public school. Our school board has 100% swallowed the Trans agenda, and I’m betting a lot of her confusion and discomfort comes from the new gender identity curriculum / bathroom regulations

8 thoughts on “Gender Indoctrination in Young Children

  1. Congratulations to Mom, who not only raised a smart kid, but who handled a delicate situation wisely and intelligently and without flipping out. 🙂

    In a sane world, kids that age wouldn’t even be thinking about this stuff. It makes me angry that adults are imposing these ideas on vulnerable kids purely to serve the adults’ agenda.


  2. Of course no parent wants to have a trans kid and it would be even worse if the kid is not trans and merely thinks so. Just an afternoon fantasy. Good going mom! However, I don’t think all this can be blamed on an agenda–trans, cis, or otherwise. Trans was happening before you were born. I grew up in the 1950s and transitioned in the early 1970s. Trans is nothing new. It goes back to ancient Rome and Asia and just about everywhere.

    I also believe, from my own experience, no kid wants to be trans–I mean, once the child realizes what will be required. It is about the hardest thing I have ever faced, and I’ve faced some doozies. All children have fantasies of being something or someone else. Yet, I told my parents I wanted to be Peter Pan and they shrugged that off.

    It was stated that the older girl, ‘B,’ had more knowledge than ‘A’ did. Mom has far more knowledge than A and much better at logic, self-knowledge, and language skills. In my own case, my parents threw a lot of reasons I wasn’t and couldn’t be a girl. It was impossible! They shut me up with their superior ability to argue, but let’s go back to Peter Pan–a character that usually in real-life is played by a female who is disguised as a boy. And Peter runs away to live to live with the lost boys. All silly, right? But my need to express myself had merely shifted. The logic did not extinguish the belief about the core identity. It was a metaphor for a girl trapped in the wrong body who has to run away from home.

    Happily 99.9% of kids give up their fantasies, because that’s all they are. Fantasies. And 80% of children brought to gender clinics never transition. They give up on it. But 20% do not give up. They do not give up on their core identities because core identities are resistant to manipulation.

    Again, the incidence of trans is very small. One in 100,000. Likely there is nothing to worry about Still, an adult arguing down a child my put a lid on crossed-gendered feelings, but the vigilant parent need to listen carefully. And sure, they could have talked me out of Peter Pan, but in the end, they could not talk me out of myself.

    When I came out to my mother when I was in college, she seemed shocked at first and then sighed deep and her first words were, “so it never went away.”


    1. You are entirely incorrect about your contention that most children brought to gender clinics do not transition. The 80 percent statistic you cite precedes the existence of gender clinics. The president of WPATH, Jamison Green, stated in an interview with Atlantic magazine that they did not know of even one patient who did not go on to transition after being placed on puberty blockers.


      1. You are correct. Those who go on puberty blockers ate generally at Tanner 2 and do not wish to progress further in the direction of the wrong puberty, and that accounts for 20%. The other 80% do not go on puberty blockers by the time they are Tanner 2, and this agrees with the current literature that you cite. In other words, 80% of the patients drop out prior to Tanner 2. And 20% is 100% of those who go on blockers.


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